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On the subject of assisted suicide...

Journal Entry: Thu Jan 5, 2012, 7:07 AM



Ramblings...



Seems people are really enjoying these "stop and think" polls and journals I've been making as of late. So, I'll attempt to keep them coming!
As always, please do post your thoughts on the matter, even if they're against the majority, or even controversial! Also, please discuss the matter with one another as opposed to just expecting replies from me. I can't get around to every message (especially as many would just be a reply of "I agree"), so chatting about it amongst yourselves should inspire some interesting debates and alternative points of view!

Of course, for those with views that differ from your own, please respect that we all have our own opinions and outlooks. No personal attacks.


RIGHT, that's that out the way....


-------"I feel embarrassed that people from this country [UK] have to go, cap in hand, to die in Switzerland,"-------
Terry Prachett


To get the matter out of the way, I should point out that I am pro-choice on this matter, and agree that, with the right rules and criteria in place, assisted suicide should be legalised. As such,  my views are going to be strongly in favour of that!



So! First and foremost, what is assisted suicide, and what would legalisation of it entail? I think some people have a warped, incorrect, or unrealistic view of just what assisted suicide is, so I'll share with you the UK's proposed scheme surrounding it.

...The criteria, however, are stringent, and not all those with serious or even terminal illnesses would be permitted to ask their doctor to prescribe them lethal medication. Only those who were over 18 and had been diagnosed as having fewer than 12 months to live would be eligible, and then only if they could show that they were making the decision voluntarily, without coming under any pressure from family members, and had "no sense of being a burden".

Two independent doctors would have to agree with the diagnosis, and also agree the person was aware of all the social and medical help available to them, and was not influenced by depression or a treatable mental illness.
- The Guardian, 5th Jan 2012


Bear in mind that this is only the UK proposal for the topic of assisted suicide. This may not be the same in other countries, whether they're considering legalisation, or already allow it.

This isn't the perfect structure, in my opinion, but it's a start. As The Guardian points out, there are many people who would not be able to seek assisted suicide under these guidelines, were they to become law. Terry Prachett has always been a strong supporter of the right to die, but as his battle is with dementia, by the time he has only 12 suspected months to live left, he would not be of a sound enough mind to be able to make the decision. So, the proposed rules don't work for everyone. While they are a good start, with decent failsafes in place, they are not perfect yet.

A lot of people oppose the idea of assisted suicide. They believe that life should be protected, that killing ones self is wrong, or selfish, or damages those around them.

Perhaps these are valid reasons. If you agree with them, then it's certainly valid reasoning enough for YOU to never undergo assisted suicide.

But what about those who disagree with you? What about people whose understanding of life and death is entirely different to your own? What right, we must ask ourselves, do we as individuals have to push our personal preferences, morals, and ideals onto the life of another person?


With that in mind, I asked myself the difficult question of "Could I agree to assisted suicide, if my condition were severe enough?". It's a hard situation to consider, as I cannot entirely imagine what a life of constant pain or suffering would be like. Still, I tried to put myself into that situation, and my final thought on the matter was: No. I couldn't. I'm too afraid to die to consider assisted suicide.

So I had my own, personal preference, albeit an assumed one. From there, my self-questioning continued to "Do I believe others should have the choice to end their lives, if the condition was severe enough?"  The answer came a lot easier, in this case. Yes, I would allow them the choice.

Not everyone is afraid of death. Indeed, it's an eventually we will all sadly have to meet some day. I wish I could have the mental stability and maturity to be more comfortable with that fact, I really do. For those who can accept it, and do not feel crippling fear or anguish at the thought of it, I applaud you, and I envy you.

For some people, life can cease to be living when their health deteriorates terribly. Indeed, are you really 'alive' if you're vegetated on a hospital bed with no hope of recovery? Can you really live when your mind is wasting away to the point you don't know who or what you are, who your family are, or how to take care of yourself in the most basic of ways? What is the point in living, some people ask, when you cannot do a thing for yourself, and every moment is a battle against agony? These are often the people who wish to have the option of assisted suicide. Life, for them, has essentially already ended. They merely wish to take the next, inevitable step a little earlier, instead of sit in limbo and wait.

Regardless of their reasons, if they are in a sound state of mind to make the decision of how they want their lives to end, then who are we as individuals to tell them what they can and cannot do, even if it directly conflicts with our own opinions or moral code?



I really could go on forever about this subject, but I really have to get back to work! I think I've said the bare bones of my view on the subject, either way!

So! Discuss. Debate. Agree or disagree. I'm looking forward to reading your thoughts on the matter!


-------Further Reading-------
[link] - The Guardian's recent article on the matter
[link] - A Pros/Cons article for both sides of the argument.
[link] - ProCon.org 's research into euthanasia, including information on the topic, as well as more pros/cons.

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~YaoiPanda14 Jan 14, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Do you think the world will end 12/12/12?? i deffinitely Do Not!! 8)
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~ZeShoopuf Jan 10, 2012  Student Photographer
I support assisted suicide - with a strict set of rules of course. I feel that if a person who lives in a lot of pain, will die soon or will deteriorate so badly they couldn't recognize themselves anymore (like with Alzheimer's) should have the option assisted suicide. As a general rule I don't support suicide (sure, I support the idea of everyone having the right to choose whether to live or to die but in almost all suicide cases there probably would have been a better option) and of course normal depression cases shouldn't be granted this option but someone with incurable cancer or Alzheimer's should have this option available to them.

Of course the process should involve psychological evaluations to make sure the person is truly capable of making such a big decision and understands what they are getting into. Also, the process should involve a waiting period of some kind to give the person time to think it through.

But yeah, I support assisted suicide. Ultimately everyone's life is their own and what they do with it is their decision.
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~NinjaWolf-Sam Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Huh. My Dad has said things like this before. Think about it, we put down our pets so they don't suffer, right? So why can't someone, as you/she said, is stable and well suffering. I would have to be in the same boat as her, yes, it should be legalized and of course, I probably wouldn't be able to at this moment, but I do really agree.
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~Karasu-Players Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
I'm not totally sure about this one. On one hand, I do understand where this is coming from, and could see why people would want to just end their life if they weren't going to be around much longer anyways.
But, on the other hand, they could live longer. For example, my friend's mom who had cancer was only supposed to be alive for a year or so, and it's been 3 or 4 years since then and she's still doing really well. So, maybe that person could have lived had they not done that. And, as some one else said, those last few months could be used to make memories with friends and family and "tie up loose ends".
If the person knew they were going to die (say, they got rabies and the only other option would be to suffer until the desiese finished them off) then it I agree with it. But, if there was a possibility for them to live (like m cancer example above) I would think that person should give it time. Ulitmately, if it was really something uncurable that would make that person suffer, then yes, they should do it.

-Kirsa
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~Nami-Cutie22 Jan 9, 2012  Student Writer
I really am on the fence here. I mean, they do deserve to be able to end their suffering, but as a Muslim, suicide is against my religion. Furthermore, that - for example - twelve months could be used to show everyone that you love them, or to get closer to God. Just my opinion.
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!shadowdeathphotos Jan 8, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
This one's pretty deep. I think people should have a choice. If the person knows that they're not going to live through something serious, yes, they should have that choice. Twice, I've had family die from something that wasn't going to be stopped anyways and revived just because the doctors figured they'd have a chance. I don't think that's right. Not the subject of the matter, but close to it...

I don't think people should let their religion really govern how they see if they're going to live or not. I don't see how it's a sin to not fear death and you want to end your suffering, because a lot of people who would request having assisted suicide would just be suffering to much. I fail to see that as a sin.

Yes, I can see it really affecting the people around them, but, why keep someone alive if they're dying, in severe pain that they're in tears, if they can even cry anymore, and just wanting to move on? People know when their time is, some just want it a bit sooner so they don't feel like they're being toyed with.
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~Axl1201 Jan 8, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm actually scared to die. I myself,try to save people from committing suicide. But,I can't save the world. So,I agree with you all the way Kelly.
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I very much agree with an argument I read on the first page of comments. I had never thought about comparing the lives of our pets in that way, but it is completely true. We don't want them to suffer because they are a part of our family and so we let them go. Yet, when it comes to the rest of our family, we are reluctant to undergo the feeling of losing them even if it will free them from pain. I think it's because we sometimes want to believe that there is another way. It may be completely inevitable, but we don't want to feel like we lost hope or gave up.

Take my grandmother for example. She had a few strokes and seizures in her last year of life and she was no longer able to talk with us. It frustrated her and us equally. In her last months, she was in the hospital and very weak. I remember praying often for God to end our torment and then berating myself half-heartedly for losing hope in her. It sounds horrible, even to me, but waiting and watching her deteriorate was painful. I don’t know if her thoughts ever went as extreme as to wishing she could leave already, but by the end, it had seemed she was ready to go. It’s like when you’ve packed your bags but you still have to wait in the cold for the bus. It is entirely possible that she might have wanted to take up that offer; though I know her mental state would have disqualified her from that choice.

As for me, I've considered this situation and others many times when pondering life and death. Personally, I think I would want to do it, but I wouldn't go through with it. Not because I am afraid (I feel that I'm not afraid of death), but because I know my friends and family would still have some hope that I would pull through. I wouldn't do it because while I know it would pain them to see me suffer, I feel that they would think I myself had given up if I asked for the last way out.

However, thinking of my own hypothetical situation, it leads me to believe it should be legalised. Because I think I would want the choice, even if I wouldn't act on it. I’m sure some other people would go for it, if their situation was bad enough. I really believe that those of us who are in pain and going to die anyway should be given this opportunity.
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There needs to be another step included in that law before assisted suicide is offered:

As long as you have living friends or family members, you must have a detailed will in place before assisted suicide is offered to you.


I'm not saying I'm for or against it, honestly its too deep of a subject for me to make up my mind on. But from experience of losing my closest family member, who did not have a will, that needs to be included.
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`KellyJane Jan 9, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Mmm, I think that's definitely something to consider. I know a few cases with family friends now where the death of a family member without a will has caused a lot of trouble for the family left behind...
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